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    "More Bad Judges"

    Jack Newfield of The Nation has a piece about the Bush administration's latest crop of federal judicial nominees. Needless to say, he does not approve, concluding:

    Bush is trying to transform America through lifetime judicial appointments for this biased batch and their clones. The bottom line is that the reckless Bushies are willing to violate computer privacy and vandalize the Bill of Rights to expedite this transformation. George W. Bush was appointed President by the Supreme Court after losing the popular vote by more than 500,000. Now he is trying to use the courts to legislate a mandate the voters never gave him by abusing the power of appointment and ignoring the Constitution's "advise and consent" clause.

    You can read the whole thing here. (via How Appealing)

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    Mr. Michael W. Weller-Please don't blame the family. They are hurting enough. Besides, it's unfair to blame any parent for what their adult children do. As adults, we are all individually responsible for our own actions.I understand that you are hurt as well, seeing a member of your family senselessly injured, but your anger towards anyone but the man that caused that injury is misplaced.And even anger towards him, after a point, is useless. He will get his punishment in due time.Take a moment to sit back and thank your higher power that your family is still intact.Then ask your higher power to bring blessings to the other victims of this crime as their lives were truly shattered, but even worse, by someone they loved.Finally, please pray that some good ultimately come from all the evil.Perhaps one day, we will have a Family Court with laws and regulations that not only serve to help the families who go there by lessening animosity and hostility, but will in doing so also bring about better measures of safety for all those involved.
    John Doe,

    I don't know if Charla and Darren were that way before, but no doubt the stress of divorce and lawyers and Family Court made them become that way.

    You're right though, big changes are needed... yesterday.

    Why is everyone so surprised by the shootings? We seem to accept that our children bring guns to school to settle the score... why is it so shocking that an adult who has easier, legal access to guns wouldn't do the same??

    Sadly, it was only a matter of time.

    And unless Family Court and divorce procedures change quickly, it'll only be a matter of time... again.

    July 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterFix our Family Court
    Mr. Weller - Thank you, thank you, thank you!

    Some parents give too much to their kids and spoil them as a result. Mack is a selfish egotistical jerk. Bubba will be glad to see him.

    Oh, and Ignore the Shitheads, your post about me being related to my husband by "blood" was so funny I forgot to laugh. How I wish I can tell you to your fact how wrong you be! Maybe you should look in the mirror before calling people names like you do.
    July 3, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSundown
    Sundown,

    He was so selfish and egotistical, he married someone who had nothing and did so without benefit of a prenuptial agreement for himself. He then proceeded to give her everything... Hardly selfish!!

    PS- good comeback on your last post to Ignore the Shitheads... how old are you? 12? LOL.. BTW, you spend more time here name-calling then anyone else.
    July 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterInteresting concept.
    I am not angry! Just very confused by a society that does not hold people responsible for their actions. Over half the posts here are pro-Mack or how the judge caused the problem. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR MACK'S ACTIONS, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO CAUSED MACK PROBLEMS, WAS MACK!! It is a damn shame that one person had to die and one person had to be shot because Mack lacked the skills of self control and responsibility that should have been taught to him as a child.My family intact? Tell two young girls that their father will return home from work safely from now on and that the family living with 24 hour police protection for nearly two weeks was a fluke! How about having to be on the floor of the car when they travelled? Tell my 84 year old mother to stop crying.Will my brother be able to gaze out a window to enjoy a robin in spring without have flashbacks?There are three families that have been terrorized by this coward and my brother's family is getting the least respect or concern!

    July 4, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael W Weller
    A few points Mr Weller. Even though I'm disenchanted with family courts etc I spent time praying for your brother and his family. I agree that society and especially people themselves are increasingly less accountable and responsible, a culture on the decline. Regarding Mack's folks, they were in a business not known for sweet loving people so maybe they didn't instill a great moral fabric in him, or on the other hand, maybe they gave birth to a narcissist or a sociopath in which case no amount of good parenting can make the bad seed a good one. Mack and his wife clearly lived a decadent/amoral lifestyle imo (and that would be fine if their weren't kids to witness it). He certainly had self control issues to say the least. He will definately suffer also in the future.Regarding your brothers rulings. The people posting here are from a wide variety of experiences with the legal system. Some are antisocial types who have had a ruling go against them and consequently Mack represents the vigilante in them who fantisizes about getting the bastard that did them wrong in their minds. Others are plain woman haters and get off on the idea of offing their wife and Mack represents some tragic twisted hero of theirs.There are others like me who are loving fathers and had a ruling negatively affect my kids(nearly killed them and I'm not making that up), and I've posted here because my kids were victims of family court stupidity(but things are OK for the most part now). On some level your brother may represent what can happen from an erroneous judgement(I'm sure you know kids have died because of judges decisions).I personally felt, initially, when I heard of the shooting that some judge probably screwed up and pissed off the wrong guy--that was my emotion and had nothing to do with any facts. I was wrong to rush to that judgement(for which I'm sorry). The ruling on this divorce case will be dissected in the future and I'll sort the facts out then. I do not envy your bothers job at all, it would be very hard for anyone to sort out right and wrong, especially with all the emotions, the lying and the lawyers.I dont think that a judge shooting was a fluke, it just happened to be your brother. Every day judges in our country make thousands of rulings that affect lives(just as police and medical workers do things that affect lives). Sometimes they come accross a person without self-control and they go nuts. On some level it's a very nasty risk of your brothers profession which I'm sure he was aware of(I think he even knew the likely culprit). Think of an abortion clinic worker. They know at any given time some freak may try to kill them.Regarding your family's suffering, I'm sorry for that. Time will help, somewhat.My mom cried every night for years and had her health deteriorate. I lost my dad on part because of the years long custody trauma. My own health deteriorated from years of stress. I don't feel like mentioning the kids traumas but they were bad and they will have adult scars for sure no matter how pleasant their lives are now.Regarding what Darren did I dont understand it. Money isn't that important to me. If I had to give up everything I had(which isnt much so I cant identify with millionaires) and bust my ass to give money to someone I disliked I'd do it if it were right for my kids. Mack was a selfish immature man who went nuts.I wouldn't take the pro-Mack postings too seriously, certainly not as a slight to your family. People, some good and some bad, just have axes to grind and this is the place they're doing it. My advice to you would be to not pay attention to anyone bothering you(which would include me if I did). I wish you and your family good luck with moving beyond this.
    July 4, 2006 | Unregistered Commenterexpose
    expose-Thank you for your post.You made a very good point as far as parenting not being to blame. You can only teach a child what they are willing and/or capable or learning.Children of nobler people have gone bad...

    Mr. Weller-

    From my perspective, your family is not the receiving the least respect or concern. They are just being viewed as the luckiest... if there is a luckiest in this situation... since no life was lost.I'm sure it is not easy for your family; there has to be so much emotional turmoil and loss of trust with the world. But, your family does have the most solid, stable foundation from which to rebuild with everyone still being present and able to support one another... You are all there to help each other through. You will all be able to heal together.That's all I was saying anyway.

    It's easy for people here to take a flippant attitude. Try to disregard the unfeeling remarks.It's very easy for everyone here to point fingers as well.No matter who was 'right' or who was 'wrong', no one deserved to be killed or shot at, or have their family destroyed or traumatized...Mostly because the saddest part with adult dealings gone bad is that, once again, the kids are the most hurt with their innocence being robbed from them.Fortunately, while your nieces will know in no uncertain terms that the days of police protection and laying on the floor of the car were not a fluke, they will again learn to trust in their father coming home each night. With each new day, they will slowly regain the normalcy in their lives.

    This situation is much like with the two kids who were starved in Carson City... all the attention focused on them and their crazy parents and crazier grandmother. Everyone seemed to forget about the family's other kids whose lives were completely turned upside-down as well when they were sent off to live in different foster homes.Somehow, they were viewed as the lucky ones since they had only 'witnessed' abuse, not actually 'suffered it physically'. Everyone seemed to forget about emotional abuse- it's easy to forget since you can't "see" the damage...

    In a way, it's good that the media is focused elsewhere. It'll lend to a more normal setting for your family so that the healing can begin to take place.


    Posted by: Michael W Weller at July 4, 2006 02:27 PMMr. Weller said:

    Just very confused by a society that does not hold people responsible for their actions. Over half the posts here are pro-Mack or how the judge caused the problem. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR MACK'S ACTIONS, AND THE ONLY ONE WHO CAUSED MACK PROBLEMS, WAS MACK!!

    *********************

    I couldn't agree with you more. This is society's problem. nobody takes responsibility anymore - they just blame everybody else. No wonder people are so unhappy!
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered Commenteranonymous
    I agree with people in general not taking responciblity for their actions. I have read all the posts and some over again, just to make sure I am getting the point the person is trying to make.

    A poster said " Accepting lifes knocks and rising above..." and then "those who don't rise above forever remain victims..." True very true!

    I would like to know how to rise above the unjustified orders handed down by a judge who flat refused to listen to anything one of the parties had to say?

    I do realize that a judge's job must be very difficult, but how on Earth can a fair decision be made, if only one party is heard?

    Then again I maybe mistaken, it seems most of the people who post what they have gone through, are blowing off steam.

    It is frustrating enough to have to actually live through the hell, but then to read things that basicly tell them to get over it, tends to feel like another kick in the head.

    As sad as it is, the fact there is somewhere for people to 'talk about' what they have lived through... might just keep another murder from happening.

    To be able to have an outlet and discuss our issues, has allowed our family to begin living a normal life again. Our time is no longer wasted discussing the ex on a daily basis.

    We are strong. The ex's war for revenge will never destroy us... but how do we help the children heal and go forward with their lives?

    How do you teach your children right from wrong if they see what goes on between the adults? Or how do you keep the nasties of the case away from the children, when the ex involves them in adult issues {against court orders}, then have your child throw it in your face constantly?

    How do you explain to a child that everything they have been told about you is not true? No matter what the circumstances... that bell can not be un-rung.

    I guess I truely am one of the very few, my divorce was not only VERY easy for all involved... but we are all the best of friends.

    Our child is very lucky, he has the love of 4 parents. We discussed everything concerning him, since choices made for him affect all of us.

    He is now 18 and will tell people that he had 4 parents to care for him, and how lucky he was. It WAS NEVER about the money! It was always about our son and helping him to feel loved and to grow up to be a good person.

    Then on the opposite end of the spectrum that ex will say or do anything it takes to get revenge!Including using the children as a weapon... we are adults and understand, but what about the children? What lessons are they learning?

    Nothing worse than hearing two very young {under 10} children, tell you "the Judge Said" or "we have court orders" or "we are taking you back to court"

    I read this somewhere and have made it my mantra:Revenge is like drinking arsinic, and waiting for the other person to die.

    I refuse to waste the time to seek revenge !



    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRose Colored Glasses
    Dear Mr. Weller,

    I guess you havent considered how many families you brother has destroyed, how many times he has taken a good man and demolished his life. How about the fathers that look out the window and have to wonder what their child is doing knowing they cant see them. Or about the bankrupt respectable fathers who contributed to this "society" in a positive way before your brother treated them like felons and took everything from them. I do not condon shooting or even injuring another human in response to their treatment of you but maybe this is true karma, what goes around comes around.You ask for respect for your family, well to the family surrounding and directly affected by what happened on that day my sincerest condolences to you, this is something no one should ever be subjected to. But to Chuck Weller I have no sympathy, as a child we are all taught that respect is earned by how you respect others. Maybe if he had considered that and respected people then him, his family and everyone affected including Darren would never have gone through this. And for that he should take some responsibility.You are on here talking about how poor society is, well I agree, how could a corupt system and judge stay in affect for so long. Why did it have to come to this before people started noticing or talking about it. How much longer before it is changed... Why when describing the case to officers did your brother call it a "high dollar case." IS THAT SERIOUSLY HIS FIRST CONSIDERATION!!!???You say you are not angry, well I am, your brother controlled the outcome of so many lives with impunity and put forth as little effort as possible to care about the well being of all parties included.You will say I do not know, but boy you have no idea how much I know about the orders your brother handed down. Maybe to you he was wonderful, but maybe you should take a step back and wonder why soooo many people are supporting Darren, but then again ignorance is bliss.

    "Those who allow for injustice share in the crime of it."
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMark S
    Amen to that! I often wonder if anyone in the court system stops to think of what their decision has done to our lives!

    It is a real shame that an intire family is devistated, all because one man did not take a minute to think through a life altering decision.

    Handing down his 'sentance' without giving a single thought as to how it would affect the children or the extended family...

    Maybe just maybe, KARMA?
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSick of the System
    Interestnig Concept, I'm 45.
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSundown
    Hey Behave, don't mess with me, OK? I raise my two sons just like any other mother on this earth. I dont' claim to walk on water. But when selfish parents make their children's lives miserable, I get pissed off! YOu don't understand? Then too bad you can't understand where I'm coming from.
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSundown
    Interesting Concept, I believe I DO NOT spend most of my time "name calling" on this board. Why don't you re-read the entire thread and see if I am the most name-calling poster on this board.

    Do I call people names? How about Fuck the Judge, or others here? Am I worse than they are with the name-calling?

    I am guilty, however, of making statements that tend to piss others off. Or hitting their nerves.
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSundown
    Sundown-This is my post to you from 11 days ago. My only post here til now:----------------------HA!!What are you some 13-year-old, punk, playgound bully, Sundown? Calling people names?!? Grow up.You say you'll "take on" another person posting here? Get real. This a a public forum.You talk about 'stupid adults.' You must be their poster child!!LOL-----------------------What in the world are you talking about in your reponse? Just proving my point about your stupidity?

    Good job! Thanks!! LOL =P
    July 5, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterBehave, children!
    Sundown-

    45? Really? You don't seem to have learned much about acceptable adult behavior.

    Basically, you're saying that you've decided as long as other people are acting stupid that you can justify your own stupid behavior...
    Go on its really good http://doctorhorny.1sweethost.com
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered Commentergay medical fetish
    I maybe wrong but are we not on here to post our opinions, thoughts and ideas?

    It seems to me everytime this begins to get back to the issues, the mud starts flying.

    OMG, it's like being in court, everyone is loosing sight of the issue at hand.
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRose Colored Glasses
    You're not wrong at all, Rose Colored Glasses.

    But unfortunately some people here cannot make a point without using obscenities and name-calling.

    Please do post your opinions, thoughts, and ideas here... maybe we can all get back to the issues like a group of adults.

    Thanks!
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterBehave, children!
    Mark S.If you appeared before my brother, YOU screwed up your family. My brother's job is to see that the rights of the weak are upheld.
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMichael W Weller
    Dear Mr. Weller,

    No, I never appeared before your brother, thank God! Your denial of the obvious truth is astounding. Why is it your brother was pre-emted off almost three times as many cases as any other judge. 68 times and the next closest is 24... Fascinating coincindence isnt it?By the way your brothers job is to make a decision based on the rule of law, he is not to create his own justice system! The law ensures both parties (including the weak) are protected if it is ruled upon correctly, he should not have to go out of his way to "see that the rights of the weak are upheld."I am not here to convince you that your brother is a monster, you will never believe it. As said before ignorance is bliss. But there are others out there who have an open mind and will hear the truth, or look at the facts objectively, unlike your brother ever did. For those people, these words will matter.Maybe it wasnt just your brother, although he is not excluded. Maybe we should all look at a system where judges who rule on peoples lives accept campaign donations from attorneys and law firms that will sit in front of them. Kind of like how your brother accepted many campaign contributions from Shawn Meador, Charla Mack's attorney, but yet Darren's attorney, Les Shaw, had contributed nothing. And you should worry about these things Mike, because you have no level of deniability, your brothers campaign contributions are public record. Your brother is the poster child for an absolutely corupt system that should be changed as soon as possible.There are no statistics and facts that will save your brother in the court of publice opinion, in fact that all seem to crucify him...

    Regards,Mark S.
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterMark S.
    Maybe someone needs my glasses!I think that everything has just become clearer to me!

    Everything that I have worked for and lost to the ex IS my fault!

    My children suffer the mental abuse, it's my fault... I can't afford to see my children, it's my fault... I have to pay for an attorney to keep what few rights I have,{instead of to my children} again my fault!

    I guess it is ALL of OUR Fault that the ex's get to grind us into the sidewalk like the dirt we are.

    The people who did not know your ex's were drug freaks, child abusers, or what have before you made a family, you should have had your tea leaves read so you could have been forwarned before you SCREWED UP your family!

    For those of you who found out your spouses were cheating. You should have learned to share!

    For all of you abused persons, you should have turned the other cheek! You have two for crying out loud.Matching broken set!Oh and two colorful eyes to go with the set!

    For those of you who worked your tails off to support your families only to be broke, what is wrong with you there are 24 hours in a day , you know! Get another job or two for pete's sake!

    Does anyone else find this ludicrus{?} because we either choose to no longer be emotionally or physically abused, our lives with a drunk or a druggie or worse are to blame for SCREWING UP OUR FAMILIES!

    By the way I am not a the Defendant nor Plaintiff, but I am party to the case when ever the ex or the attorney feel like putting in the middle.

    I lost my insurance due to the ex's lies to the Judge, and am now disabled.

    When I was capable of working, my income was imputed because at the time I made more!The members of my house hold had to give up their finances!

    I know right from wrong. I have strong values and work ethics. I am mentaly stable. I do not bash people, I do not seek revenge or harbor ill thoughts. I show everybody respect, weather they deserve it or not.

    Apperantly though I did forget my manners when the judge bent me over {when he handed down rulings, that affected my health and my family} I forgot to say Thank You!

    But of course he did it all according to the Laws!LOL. Though I have spent the time to read the NRS, NRCP, RCP ect... But still can not find what laws he based his rulings on, maybe the only way they appear is if you have been drinking.

    I must go mix a drink now!
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterRose Colored Glasses
    News Flash... people are not getting divorces because they are happly married and have a perfect family.If people could agree on what issues are best for their families... there would be no cause for a divorce.

    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered CommenterSick of the System
    Mr. Weller,

    You have no idea how much damage poor judgemanship of other WCFC judges havehad on my children. It is not just twoweeks of horror, it is yearsof things like you speak of. Please, if you really care, help research the pitfalls, the cracks in andof the system. Perhaps you can be a transformer, and help guide your brother inhelping make honesty and fairness for thechildren the main point of the courts. Thethings you spoke of so trite compared to theactual things that kids have to go through withbad and unkept orders. Try to help if you can,for you realize that just the chaos of two weeksis not healthy for kids, can you imagine 18 yearsof horror from bad decisions and biasednesses andorders that are not policed.

    I see you have a heart and feel for the kids...please take a position that can help to reform the court system if you can. It seems likeyou are in a position and can care and make a difference. For the sake of all the kids whohad suffered injustices due to inaccurate legalmaneuvers and the system. Thank-you in advance.

    really, please help:)

    The best interest of the kids should be forefront anda right as they are too citizens of the United States.If one parent has not the top sum of money to afforda good attorney, and one parent becomes unreasonable and bails out, the children's lives should not pay the price with years of horrible experiences. In a few years, my children canspeak to their experience with the family court.Until then, and for children like them, pleasehelp to make attorney's in family court have tospeak the truth and not make-up things to gaina cruel advantage.
    July 6, 2006 | Unregistered Commentertruth

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